You plan to move to the Philippines? Wollen Sie auf den Philippinen leben?

There are REALLY TONS of websites telling us how, why, maybe why not and when you'll be able to move to the Philippines. I only love to tell and explain some things "between the lines". Enjoy reading, be informed, have fun and be entertained too!

Ja, es gibt tonnenweise Webseiten, die Ihnen sagen wie, warum, vielleicht warum nicht und wann Sie am besten auf die Philippinen auswandern könnten. Ich möchte Ihnen in Zukunft "zwischen den Zeilen" einige zusätzlichen Dinge berichten und erzählen. Viel Spass beim Lesen und Gute Unterhaltung!


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Saturday, June 13, 2026

Do Germans still address people as Herr and Frau, or is that a past habit?

 

Walk up to any German apartment building, and you'll notice the buzzers rarely list first names—a subtle architectural reminder that Herr and Frau are far from a thing of the past.

Germans still use Herr (Mr.) and Frau (Ms.), combined with the formal pronoun Sie, as the default in many areas of public and professional life. It remains the absolute standard in traditional corporate environments, government offices, medical practices, and customer service. When dealing with a bureaucratic agency or meeting a client for the first time, addressing them as Herr Müller or Frau Schmidt is expected. Skipping straight to first names in these contexts is often viewed as presumptuous or unprofessional.

However, the rigid linguistic hierarchy of the 20th century has softened. The informal du and the use of first names have swept through younger generations and modern industries. In tech startups, creative agencies, and international corporations based in Germany, employees often use first names across the entire company. Socially, young adults generally default to du with their peers upon first meeting. The line between formal and informal is now situational rather than absolute, and colleagues in traditional companies usually wait for the older or more senior person to offer the use of first names.

While Herr and Frau are thriving, one title is firmly in the past: Fräulein (Miss). Historically used for unmarried women, it was banished from West German government correspondence in 1972. Today, addressing an adult woman as Fräulein is viewed as patronizing and archaic; every woman is addressed as Frau, regardless of marital status.

The tension between old formality and new casualness has even birthed hybrid forms of address like the Hamburger Sie. This involves using a person’s first name combined with the formal Sie pronoun, rather than the informal du. It is a modern compromise that reflects a society relaxing its rules while still relying on the respectful distance that traditional German address provides.

A typical German apartment doorbell panel displaying only the residents' last names. - Photo by Jedesto (Wikimedia Commons) is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0

Saturday, November 25, 2023

Do Germans still address people as Herr and Frau, or is that a past habit?

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To address a common mistake of Americans learning German: You cannot address someone in German with Herr or Frau on their own as you can use Mister or Madam in English. 

(Addition since many comments point out that it is impolite to do that in English, in English it may be bad form but it still is linguistically correct, in German it is already wrong linguistically.) 

Neither in the past nor in the present. You could say „mein Herr“ or „meine Dame“ but that indeed is a bit old fashioned and depending on context people may suspect that it is said in irony. What you can do is use it in third person: „Die Dame ist vor mir dran!“ (The lady is ahead of me (in the queue))

Using Herr and Frau in combination with the surname, as calling someone „Herr Meier“ or „Frau Schmidt“ is, however, perfectly normal.